Gabriel Rufián Admits to Jordi Évole: 'I've Handed Out 'Independence Certificates' and I'm Ashamed of It'

Gabriel Rufián is the main guest on 'Lo de Évole' this Sunday. The spokesperson for the Republican Left of Catalonia in Parliament is interviewed by Jordi Évole, and both open up, expressing their true feelings about each other. 'I have to confess something, Gabriel, you really got on my nerves,' the journalist tells the Catalan politician, who admits that Évole annoyed him 'even more'. 'Seriously?' Évole asks, astonished, as Rufián reveals that he has often 'criticised him heavily'.

During the conversation, Jordi Évole asks Rufián, 'What happened over the years that made us not get along?' to which the politician responds, 'I was an idiot, and you?' 'Not me,' Jordi Évole replies to Gabriel Rufián just before both burst into laughter. This scene was shown in the preview of the programme aired by LaSexta.

In another part of the conversation, Jordi Évole questions Rufián about the current state of the independence movement and what went wrong for it to be in its current state after ten years. 'Handing out 'purity certificates'. We took part, I took part. I'm ashamed of it,' the ERC politician replied, much to the journalist's surprise.

Jordi Évole reacted on his X account to Rufián's response with a striking statement: 'If someone had told me 10 years ago that Gabriel Rufián would say this in an interview, I wouldn't have believed it.' A way to promote his programme, which will air this Sunday.